Originally Posted by davido
wait, are we talking about a front anti-wrap here?
Originally Posted by davido
wait, are we talking about a front anti-wrap here?
Subject: Anti-Wrap Front and Rear
Body: "Well I definitely need a solution for both."
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alright smartass. way to thank me for taking time out of my busy day
Hey, just reitterating. You asked. Would this have helped?
~dso
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yeah i know.Originally Posted by davido
ok, ideas for the front.
1) go front shackle. its better for an off-road only vehicle anyways. the only real benefits to reverse shackle are for daily drivers. then you can duplicate your rear anti-wrap in the front. this will also cut down on, or maybe eliminate, pinion angle change due to suspension travel. also will eliminate the large change in distance between the pinion and the t-case.
2) coil springs and 3 or 4 link, then you can move you axle forward like you want to. lot of work though.
3) the "anti-wrap" leaves on top of the spring, or just an extra second leaf but on top of the spring. easy fix but i dont think will be effective enough for you
4) slapper bars, a.k.a.- gay rock anchors
5)overload springs under the leaf pack. will eliminate spring inversion and some, if not all, wrap. inversion maybe something you wanna keep. this is my rear anti-wrap and bump stop as of now. i havent experienced any wrap, but thats not saying much, unless smoking them off the line on pavement is a good testiment, havent wheeled it enough to tell if it is.
6) something different- shackles on both ends of the leaf springs with a three link. you might could do a two link, but im not sure how well the springs would locate the axle side-to-side with shackels on both ends. i think this would be cool with a three link and orbit eyes like andy's on both ends of the springs.
thats all igot for now.
oh yeah, and you need longer shackles anyways
edit: see what i mean
Last edited by agjohn02; 10-18-2005 at 06:24 PM.
shackles in front hit rocks and bend springs.
Originally Posted by eight
true, but shackles in rear make it hard to put an anti wrap on there and break u-joints
the shackle doesnt have to hit a rocj to bend a spring, just the tire hitting a rock can bend the spring. good spring clamps on the rear of the spring is the only thing i can think of to help out
jimmy, is your pitman arm tre tight in this pic?
http://www.offroadrepublic.com/galle...lbum06/aad.jpg
Well shackles on the rear of rear springs don't seem to make them bend.
Why won't the kind like Andy's work on the front as is? The shackle at the frame end of the bar will allow for the axle moving forward yes?
Originally Posted by eight
yes, that and ride quality are why i reversed mine, but there are pretty convincing arguments for front shackles.
the reason i assume it wont work with reverse shackle is the spring pivots in the front and will cause the anti-wrap to bind during droop and compression. basically, by putting an anti-wrap on the same side as the shackle, you're introducing an "infinitely" stiff spring, basically eliminating half the leaf spring.
Originally Posted by eight
one on the right, its gonna break off
one on the left, i dont see how it pivots
oh, instructions, good idea
its gonna break too and you better have one heck of an anti-wrap bar
No, it wasn't. We were still putting everything together then.Originally Posted by agjohn02
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