Rigs Sam will never have

Ok, driving the FJ this weekend got the itch going in me to build a rig.

I am going to do something out of the box as far as this club goes and build it right the first time.

What I am thinking

Buy an old extended cab 2wd toyota that has as many miles as possible on it for cheap

Then I am planning on this
5.3l vortec, automatic transmission, and either a stack or atlas.

for axles I am thinking a 14 bolt and a 60, or maybe some spider 9s, but this is not likely
5.13 gears, or maybe 4.56

Suspension.
This is where I am REALLY not sure. I want to do a double triangulated 4 link rear and a 3 link with track bar front, on coilovers or air shocks
In all likely hood I will just do leaf springs

42" pitbull rockers or IROKs on recentered H1s

I am going to need a lot of help coming up with ideas on this, and any ideas or suggestions are extremely welcome

This is going to take a long damn time to do. I know that and dont want to change my mind. I want something done right the first time that I can rely on and is capable. I see no reason to buy something that sucks and spend all of my time working on it on the trail and be wary to spend the money to get it on a trip and then have it break down.

:laughing: Are you on crack?

So.....who is going to do this for you? We all know you'll give up when you get a dead battery.

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Originally Posted by sam_hodnett

Ok, driving the FJ this weekend got the itch going in me to build a rig.

I am going to do something out of the box as far as this club goes and build it right the first time.

What I am thinking

Buy an old extended cab 2wd toyota that has as many miles as possible on it for cheap

Then I am planning on this
5.3l vortec, automatic transmission, and either a stack or atlas.

for axles I am thinking a 14 bolt and a 60, or maybe some spider 9s, but this is not likely
5.13 gears, or maybe 4.56

Suspension.
This is where I am REALLY not sure. I want to do a double triangulated 4 link rear and a 3 link with track bar front, on coilovers or air shocks
In all likely hood I will just do leaf springs

42" pitbull rockers or IROKs on recentered H1s

I am going to need a lot of help coming up with ideas on this, and any ideas or suggestions are extremely welcome

This is going to take a long damn time to do. I know that and dont want to change my mind. I want something done right the first time that I can rely on and is capable. I see no reason to buy something that sucks and spend all of my time working on it on the trail and be wary to spend the money to get it on a trip and then have it break down.

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This is a great dream and sounds like a badass trail vehicle. That being said I kind of agree with Travis.

If you want something reliable, but not as pretty of parts by Fugly from my Dad. Damn thing never breaks, has 39.5's on beadlocks, hopped up Tree Fifty and a great crawl ratio with the SM420. Makes a good trail machine. Just a thought.

Ill get it done, it will probably be after college... I knew this was going to happen.

Find one and wheel it like it is for a bit. At least until after college. It'll be way too demotivating to build it all with no budget.

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Comments on re-gearing your axles:
1) Open Microsoft Excel
2) Put cost of gear, master install kits, and labor to install in columns
3) Use the =sum() function and see how much it costs.

I think you will crap a brick when you see how much re-gearing costs as opposed to buying a $900 set of 1-tons with 4.11 already in them.

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you probably won't have enough time or money before you get out of school to do this, and why start with a toyota and throw most of it away? Fellers did that a few years back to that 4 runner, seemed kind of dumb.

I know it will be after school when i get this done

I know, but what would i start with that I would not throw a bunch of it away?

Go get a loan an buy my jeep.

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Originally Posted by Busa

Go get a loan an buy my jeep.

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how much do you want for it?

As it sits $13000

92 YJ
Stock 4.0
TStock AX15
Atlas 5.0 with 32spl out front 32spl out rear, 1350 yoke front 1350 flange rear
17 X 9 (6 on 5.5) Mickey Thompson classic II with OMF bead locks
40" BFG Krawlers
Rubicon Express 1" leaf spring, Sprung over 1" body lift, Bilstein 12” 7100 and Bilstein 10” 7100 shocks
Spider 9" housing with Dana 60 outers, Axle shafts are 35 spline inner and outer 4340 Moser shafts
Ford 9" with 35 spline Dutchman 4340 shafts and disk brakes
Both axles have Strange Nodular Iron third member, Daytona pinion supports, 35 spline Detroit’s and 5.13 gears
PSC full hydro steering 2.25 double ended ram
Warn 8000pd winch
Onboard air with tank
Low profile Aluminum gas tank that is under the jeep
Custom Roll cage
Race trim seats with 4point harnesses
Custom tube fenders
1" motor lift and a flat skid plate
1350 front and 1350 CV rear drive shafts
Custom Rockslides and corner guards
Flat belly
Custom front and rear bumpers
Wheel base stretched 7.5” 102ish
Good heater
New AC system

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Originally Posted by sam_hodnett

Ok, driving the FJ this weekend got the itch going in me to build a rig.

I am going to do something out of the box as far as this club goes and build it right the first time.

What I am thinking

Buy an old extended cab 2wd toyota that has as many miles as possible on it for cheap

Then I am planning on this
5.3l vortec, automatic transmission, and either a stack or atlas.

for axles I am thinking a 14 bolt and a 60, or maybe some spider 9s, but this is not likely
5.13 gears, or maybe 4.56

Suspension.
This is where I am REALLY not sure. I want to do a double triangulated 4 link rear and a 3 link with track bar front, on coilovers or air shocks
In all likely hood I will just do leaf springs

42" pitbull rockers or IROKs on recentered H1s

I am going to need a lot of help coming up with ideas on this, and any ideas or suggestions are extremely welcome

This is going to take a long damn time to do. I know that and dont want to change my mind. I want something done right the first time that I can rely on and is capable. I see no reason to buy something that sucks and spend all of my time working on it on the trail and be wary to spend the money to get it on a trip and then have it break down.

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You can build a badass rig with a lot less money than what you are talking, and still upgrade in the future.

Examples:

run a 350 with TBI

Run CUCV axles with stock 4.56 or find one tons with 4.10s - you get plenty of gearing out of the transfer case

Standard trans is tempting for low granny gear, cheap rebuild, and durability. worst case, run the th400 out of the cucv you buy.

Don't bother recentering the wheels - or just run skinny stockers - works for kopecki

run leafs, you can link it later and dont lose much. also leafs are very cabable and cheap.

run 60/14 - shave the lip.

I am more and more impressed by swamper tsl's. unimpressed by iroks. pitbull, maxxis, and pretty much anything else i'm not sure about.

This is all assuming you are running a trailer rig to drive on rock trails.

OBA off of a york seems to be the superior setup to me.

simple cage, simple sliders if any, body you dont care about, dependable guages, fuel cell, seats, harnesses, storage, antiwrap bars, 0 degree plus approach and departure, good winch, high steer with hydro assist, quiet muffler, four tow points, belly skid (pref flat), passenger oh **** handle, maybe a temp windshield (plex or lexan?)

So buy a parts truck or trucks to get your drivetrain, and scrap the leftovers, That leaves a trans case/doubler as your biggest ticket.

Weld diffs, run cheap slugs, throw some tunes in (maybe)

Good simple CB.

Now if you want something that is more streetable, that throws alot of this out the window, especially tires and welded diffs.

I would love to buy your jeep busa, but there is absolutely no possible way that i could afford that and I really dont want to take out a loan for a rig

Just a thought

13k goes really fast when building something. But there are plenty of nicely built rigs out there in the 10k range. People just can't afford this hobby.